Proposal: Spreading the 75% Reduction Out Daily & Reducing Sell Spikes

Proposal: Spreading the 75% Reduction Out Daily & Reducing Sell Spikes

Background

Meow mentioned in the latest JUP Really that the Jupuary allocation would be staked at first, but that it could be claimed on day 1 at a 75% reduction (25% of the allocation). The reductions would last for one year for direct claim.

We understand here that the longer you wait, the less the 75% reduction becomes and the higher % of allocation you get. This would continue throughout the year until it would reach 0% reduction and 100% allocation you could claim after 1 year.

Making the 75% Reduction Gradual & Daily

There is a specific implementation of this 75% token reduction I would like to propose, which would significantly reduce impact of newly introduced JUP tokens.

This suggestion is made assuming we would indeed start at 75% reduction for day 1 claim and making it last ~ 1 year before it’s 0% reduction, as Meow suggested.

My suggestion is to have daily reductions of 0.2% for 375 days (starting at 75% and ending at 0%). Simplified math: 375 days x 0.2% = 75%.

Example of daily 0.2% reduction decrease

Here is an example of what monthly token releases would look like in comparison to daily. Below chart shows a visualisation of the Daily 0.2% Reduction Decrease and Token Introductions VS 6% Monthly.

My proposal is to reduce the reduction daily by 0.2%. In other words, the 75% is decreasing daily by 0.2% until it reaches 0% after 375 days.

The blue line shows an example of what that could look like in terms of new tokens being introduced to the market, verses the alternative (which seems not ideal).

  • Blue line :chart_with_downwards_trend:= Daily reduction decrease / allocation increase of 0.2% (resulting in daily introduction of the tokens into the market; preferred outcome)
  • Red line :chart_with_upwards_trend: = Monthly reduction decrease / allocation increase of 6% (resulting in monthly introduction spikes on a single day, non-preferred outcome)

Full explanation of the idea

  • To decrease the impact of tokens entering the market, it’s helpful when the sale pressure would not be concentrated in a short timeframe, but instead spread out throughout time over as many days as possible.

  • It would be much less favourable if all sell pressure comes on a single day of the month or quarter (in case of monthly or quarterly unlocks).

    • If there would only be a quarterly or a monthly unlock option (with 18% or 6% reduction), many people would be unlocking all on the same day (the day in the month when the unlock takes place).
    • This would add more sell pressure than buy pressure, potentially causing a sharp price decrease on a reduction / unlock particular day.
  • So instead of doing a 6% reduction per month or 18% reduction per quarter, we could do a 0.2% reduction daily. If you make the reduction and unlock daily starting at 75% deduction and reducing it daily by 0.2%, you would effectively be spreading out all the sell pressure over 375 days (1 year).

  • So day 1 unlock is 75% reduction, day 2 is 74.8% reduction, day 3 is 74.6% etc, day 4 is 74.4%, day 5 is 74.2%, day 6 is 74%, day 7 is 73.8% etc. Every day would be a 0.2% reduction. until after 375 days you reach 0% reduction / 100% allocation.

  • When starting at 75% and reducing it by 0.2% per day, after 375 days (roughly one year) you’d arrive at 0% reduction (full allocation). The reduction per month would equal 6% (30 x 0.2%), or 18% per quarter (90 x 0.2%). But the important point of my proposal is that it happens daily, so it’s spread out.

  • Because it’s spread out per day it has even less impact in terms of concentrated sell pressure. It would be much better to have daily unlocks and reductions and spread it out throughout every single day of the 1 year period.

Potential implementation of the proposal

This should be easy to implement for the team. It’s a very simple math, converted into a small piece of code.

Start at 75% reduction (25% allocation) and the allocation would increase 0.2% (reduction would decrease) every day until it reached 100% on day 375.

You just don’t want thousands of people claiming and potentially selling on a single day, instead of it being spread out over many different days.

Here is the simple math formula (made using ChatGPT):

Here is a python code example (made using ChatGPT) reflecting this math:

`initial_reduction = 75  # Start at 75% reduction
daily_decrease = 0.2  # Reduce by 0.2% each day
days = 375

for n in range(1, days + 1):
    reduction = initial_reduction - (daily_decrease * (n - 1))
    allocation = 100 - reduction
    print(f"Day {n}: Reduction = {reduction}%, Allocation = {allocation}%")
`

Summary of the logic of the proposal

I propose daily introductions of JUP into the market (instead of weekly / monthly / quarterly). This would be done by increasing the claimable amount by 0.2% per day, starting at 25% until it reaches 100%. Viewed the other way around; the reduction starts at 75% and becomes 0.2% less every day until it is 0%.

This would contribute to JUP price stability, and help avoid sharp price decreases by unnecessary spikes of sell pressure.

The 75% reduction decreases by 0.2% per day, and the claimable allocation increases daily by 0.2%. This would support a more spread out daily introduction of the new JUP tokens (instead of it all being concentrated on specific days).

The reduction starts at 75% on day 1 and would get 0.2% less per day, until after 375 days (a little over one year) it would reach 0% reduction (full 100% allocation).

Let me know what you guys think! And team @0xSoju @meow

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Wow, excellent idea and such through thought out summary. I have to agree i think, if it can done, then a slow release. Thanks for proposing this

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is this a repost? I swear i already read this.

but yes i agree

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agree with the idea. it doesnt make sense for everyone to make them wait for a year.

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This is exactly what will happen, proposal not really needed

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I don’t know if you’re a mathematician or not, but brother, you’re good at numbers.
The truth is that I agree with this, you can see that it worked very well with our colleagues at Sanctum with their daily % reduction, the stability and health of the $CLOUD token has been increasing since it came out. You can say they did a good job and I hope we implement this on Jupiter as well. :green_heart:

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I think this is a great idea @JUPWhale, great post.

More broadly, Meow also mentioned on the Jup rally call the need for the community to come together and try to see both sides of the argument around airdrop proposals.

I was conscious on hearing that about the many posts you have put out, and the sometimes harsh criticism you have received. For my part, I feel like I may have, at times, been one of the critical parties, and whilst coming from a good place, I am conscious that I have a tendency to be quite forthright in my convictions. I am not perfect, and so I wanted to thank you again for the effort you have put in to your posts (like above), with such detail and thought behind them. Whilst I may not have fully agreed with some of the sentiment behind your proposals, they were really useful in driving thoughtful and spirited debate - thank you.

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We don’t know that ‘‘this will happen’’. They may not have thought of this yet. They really didn’t specify that. They could have thought of weekly decreases of 1.5%, monthly decreases of 6% or even quarterly decreases of the reduction of 18% instead. They didn’t mention anything whatsoever yet about making it daily.

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Yes exactly. The main issue with doing 75% reduction for instant claim and then suddenly going to 0% reduction after one year, is that most people would still all claim at the same time - just one year later

That would just postpone a highly concentrated wave of sell pressure if there would be one or multiple big reductions and unlocks.

A costal town can easily handle many small waves, they just land at the beach and are absorbed, but one wave could cause a destructive tsunami.

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I appreciate you dude! We need more people with your attitude in the community. We may disagree but we’re still Jupiter brothers.

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Yea I first posted it as a more condensed comment to another topic, but I continued working on it and started to add to it. It then reached a level of specificity and substance that I felt it deserved a new topic.

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Thanks Fergie, I appreciate your feedback! :wink:

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Addition to this, I’d consider the jupuary JUP to behave like staked JUP does. 30 day unlock with linearly diminishing voting power, partial unlocks just like staked JUP (although the partial unlock is broken IMO) and I forgot my 3rd point while editing the post. :slightly_smiling_face:

With exception, if you have not voted on any proposals yet, then it would bypass the 30 day unlock. The reason being, you haven’t participated in the DAO or received / going to receive ASR with it. This also resolves the issues of some people waking up late wanting to claim their JUP but doesn’t want to commit long term or have 30 day unlock (these people haven’t voted any proposals yet either with their airdropped JUP).

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I don’t see how it could be done differently, this makes so much sense!

But on the other hand, this approach may just delay the issue rather than solve it, essentially pushing the sell pressure to Jupuary 2026 and so on, when we’ll face the same unlock scenario all over again. Should we consider a longer-term solution to avoid this recurring cycle?

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They helped sanctum launch cloud using this exact mechanic, they’ll use it for JUP

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A good proposal makes sense. Mind you Jup price will be a lot higher by end of year or next cycle. There will be a lot of people both holding and unstaking. Should balance everything out nicely.

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I think that those who are financially driven forget. By the time jupuary happens c jup will be like $4 man

I swear .

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Similar to the $Cloud unlock schedule. Awesome and fair, Nice work

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Wow, the details, this is great proposal; i agree with this.

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I appreciate the effort, but I will comment very shortly. I think that penalties are simply a terrible idea. Much better to drop the base value and reward (up to 75% more) holding/staking or whatever behavior is considered fit to show medium/long term commitment. With human beings rewards work always better then punishments.

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