Quantum Trial Working Group

[KDay]

Jupiter’s Quantum Leap Initiative

Concept: This working group would focus on exploring and integrating quantum computing concepts into blockchain technology, specifically within the Jupiter ecosystem. While quantum computing’s impact on blockchain is often discussed in terms of threats (like breaking current encryption methods), this group would look at how quantum computing could enhance blockchain operations, particularly in terms of speed, security, and scalability.

Objectives:

1. Quantum-Resistant Algorithms: Develop or integrate quantum-resistant cryptographic algorithms into Jupiter’s protocol. This would future-proof the platform against quantum computing threats, ensuring that even with advancements in quantum technology, Jupiter remains secure.

2. Quantum-Enhanced Consensus Mechanisms: Research and prototype consensus mechanisms that could leverage quantum computing for faster transaction validations. This could involve exploring quantum entanglement for instantaneous transaction confirmations or quantum random number generators for enhanced security in block creation.

3. Quantum Simulation for Trading: Use quantum computing simulations to model complex market behaviors in real-time, potentially offering predictive analytics for trading that are beyond the capabilities of classical computers. This could revolutionize how strategies are developed on Jupiter, providing users with insights based on quantum simulations.

4. Quantum Key Distribution (QKD): Implement or research the integration of QKD for secure communication within the Jupiter network. This would provide theoretically unbreakable encryption for data transfer, enhancing the privacy and security of transactions.

5. Educational Outreach: Given the complexity, this group would also focus on educational content, explaining quantum computing’s relevance to blockchain in simple terms, thereby demystifying the technology for the broader community and encouraging more research and development in this intersection.

6. Collaboration with Quantum Tech Companies: Partner with companies or research institutions that are at the forefront of quantum computing to test real-world applications within the Jupiter ecosystem. This could lead to pilot projects where actual quantum computers are used for specific blockchain tasks.

Implementation:

• Research Phase: Initially, the group would conduct theoretical research, possibly in collaboration with academic institutions or quantum computing labs.

• Prototype Development: Develop small-scale prototypes or simulations of how quantum computing could enhance blockchain functions.

• Integration Testing: Test these prototypes in controlled environments within the Jupiter network.

• Community Engagement: Regular updates, workshops, and hackathons focused on quantum computing and blockchain, encouraging community participation and innovation.

[lochie2001]

Ahhh you’ve jumped the gun a bit and confused the hell outtta me.

Could you firstly explain to a newbie (like me) what quantum computing is?

[Merlin-M-Ostermann]

I know this is a leading question @lochie2001 and I may spoil the fun you had intended by asking it, but I could not resist to premediate the bait taking. But I really did not want to read more ChatGPT for today so I will leash out saying that Quantum Computing, while it has a definition and is argued to have available applications, to me it is a thing like Web3, where everyone is so eagerly anticipating and wanting to be at Web3 already, that they will label any and everything Web3 while under evaluation they are actually Web2.5 with a few stronger established and passionate projects maybe ticking in at Web2.7 but no one really reached Web3 as you would only know that in retrospect.

Yes there is something called Quantum Computing and then there is the almost attainment of real Quantum Computing, where we either are not quite yet or where it gets unaffordable (Google and Microsoft are probably closest, but not with their rentable product for QC, more on the line what they run in their concept and research laboratories). While Quantum computers have the potential to revolutionize fields such as cryptography, materials science, and complex system simulations by solving problems that are currently intractable for classical computers, one big reality is that the term is simply abused by many to play buzzword bingo and throw out impressive statement that do not hold to feasable reality.

Deep breath while putting on the tech bro glasses…
Quantum computing is an advanced field of computer science that leverages the principles of quantum mechanics to perform computations that are beyond the capabilities of classical computers. Starting with “qubits” that unlike classical bits, which can be either 0 or 1, qubits can exist in a state of superposition, meaning they can be both 0 and 1 simultaneously. This allows quantum computers to process a vast amount of information at once. This principle of Superposition allows quantum particles to be in multiple states at the same time. For example to go full circle here, a qubit in superposition can represent both 0 and 1 simultaneously. When qubits become entangled, the state of one qubit is directly related to the state of another, no matter the distance between them. This property enables quantum computers to perform complex calculations more efficiently. Quantum algorithms use interference to amplify the probabilities of correct answers and cancel out the probabilities of incorrect ones. This is the process by which quantum information is lost to the environment, causing the system to behave more classically. Managing decoherence is one of the significant challenges in building practical quantum computers.

Now in terms of jumping the gun @lochie2001 it might come across crude and harsh as usual from me, but hey to some degree it might be what some expect is that I would argue that it is a rather irrelevant topic for the DAO as what merit does it have? I would call in an analogy here, we could make our own small club of 5 people, collect some monthly fees for cost coverage. The club would just be about playing card games every Friday and having a beer on the side, but one day a member proposes to use the funds for a public panel to debate Socrates trial and subsequent execution in 399 BCE where he was accused of impiety and corrupting the youth of Athens.

My point is, what use does it have for the average DAO user that can wrap his brains easier around token related DeFi products than not being distracted by to outskirting RWA or DePIN roams, to aim for the tech bro sky?

Let Google and MIcrosoft figure out real Quantum Computing first on the side during the whole AI narrative which seems to be more of a focus any way and bring it down to commercial level where we are not talking about “an cloudcluster high density mesh computing service that we labeled QC to sell it to companies” but to have attainable QC at corporate level that can rival AI or at least hold its pace.

Developing quantum resistant algorithms is kind of “out of scope” for any Jup WG, I mean let’s be real. As we have by no means reached quantum infinity, we will always have a better QC beat a worse one.

If any I believe QC solutions are for layer 1 models, and as long as Solana, Polygon or ETH do not implement QC I would consider that “a dream” anyway.

To educate and resear QC itself, leave that to other bigger ones, to make a real working prototype implementation, well not sure how much money you wanna waste for what result.

Seems to me, sorry to say, like a WG for the only cause to run a WG.

[Mbolorman]

Because @Merlin-M-Ostermann has comprehensively addressed most of the things I thought of & more once I read through this proposal I will begin by saying that I align fully with his thoughts. Further to the argument he presented, I will further add that a Quantum Trial WG at this moment might misalign with the core focus of Jup DAO. My understanding is that the primary focus of most Web3 DAOs like Jup DAO revolves around blockchain technology, decentralized governance, digital assets, and smart contracts. Quantum computing, while a significant technological advancement, operates in a completely different domain. I believe the current goals of Jup DAO like many other Web3 DAOs don’t typically align with the highly specialised and experimental nature of quantum computing, making a working group on this subject tangential to its objectives.

As a DAO, it’s fair to say or assume that our resources are limited and we must allocate these resources efficiently to achieve our goals. Given the specialised nature of quantum computing and its limited relevance to immediate Web3 concerns like Jup DAO, setting up a dedicated working group could be a misallocation of limited resources. It would be more strategic to concentrate resources on improving core aspects that can have immediate and current benefit to the Jup DAO now rather than investing in an area that is still in its infancy.

I think forming a quantum computing working group within the Jup DAO now would divert attention and resources away from other potential relevant WGs which are far more aligned with blockchain development and governance. The immaturity of quantum technology means that a working group might not be necessary at this stage for Jup DAO.