Absolutely agree. I said from the begging… Start with volume and add multipliers so the dude that made 500k in 4 swaps (nothing else) all year long won’t be rewarded more than a dude that used the platform constantly during the year and maybe had 200k in swap volume.
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Whats harder to deal with:
Using Jupiter all year and getting an $8,000 Airdrop?
or
Getting a $100K airdrop the first Jup while still using the platform religiously, possibly even more than the first JUP, and getting a $2,000 drop this year?
I know everyone cant be accounted for fully but this is a real angle. Its hard to sit well with No. 2 but there should be a fair way.
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I don’t know. I’ve never been there.
This is not about how much I will get. This is about the future of Jupiter.
We want to gain real users and grow the fees collected or we want to make happy few whales and 10 dozens insiders.
The numbers are going down. The fees are dropping. Staked Jup is dropping. The active traders are dropping.
Everybody is very concerned about the fucking whales and the insiders. Nobody gives a shit about the daily (weekly) active users.
That’s the reality.
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The second in the scenario would have already gained a ton of capital that they could have staked to gain some healthy rewards. The first needs onboarding right and probably feels like they are not given even a minute chance to significantly be part of the ecosystem in a financial way when also including the amount of voting power they will gain.
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I am such a dude that used the platform organically 2000 times including the ape limit dca lock function. Even voted like 11 times. Have just under 200K volume. Yet I would get 250 jup. It’s a gift okay and thanks. But someone with 200k just swapped once or even six times and they are treated very differently.
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Like I said JUP Team is highly proficient (and getting better) at finding Farming wallets, I mean I wish they could get rid every Fake volume creator… Also, If I knew JUP was going to have a staking system, I would have Locked up my JUP from day 1… I learnt a big lesson there. Since I have never Unstaked and only Added more to my Staking position…
If I only knew last year about ASR.
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I feel your frustration. I like you are not mincing words either and that you are showing up.
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The ape/limit/dca will have their category on their own and so you’ll probably get an extra allocation from that.
Bu that will always be the “problem” with tiers, where the people on the top end of a tier will always feel unjustice because someone who is in the bottom of that same tier will get the same with less volume. But it needs to be that way, if it was linear it’d be worse for pretty much everyone (minutes the top 0.1% of wallets who would get 80%+ of the tokens
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There are many ways to setup a distribution plan. That catches genuine users. As a person who is just simply an organic user. Didn’t try to farm at all realistically I would not have any real allocation towards ape dca and limit order as it is probably going to be all volume based too. Meaning a guy with more capital can easily outfarm the airdrop. I used the tools quite a bit over the year as they were useful. Did have to cancel orders though at times because they didn’t get triggered and ended up losing a bit. The point is it’s a gift and thanks but it doesn’t really do much for a consistent real user compared to a potential whale who wants to just farm an airdrop. Otherwise the team got everything else quite right.
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Yeah I see your point and fully agree. But I’m also confident that the team will do a great job on sybiling wallets and farmers. As in every airdrop, there always be sybils who go through the cracks and are not caught, but the team has been doing such a good job on everyting they do, I’m confident they will also have a pretty decent sybil algo 
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I would say the Sybil detection they use will be top notch. I just don’t get why they don’t also look at amounts of transactions amount of unique visits the volume generated, using other Jupiter exchange tools etc. But as one of the main indicators. Not view them all separately. This would show up the real users real quick. But guess it’s to late now.
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I believe JUP will have a minimum ammount of tx on JUP and will look into wallets that also interacted with other protocols (something that most bots dont do) and that way can get a lot of bots out. Lets wait a few days and hopefully all goes well 
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I agree It is very important for tran
Specifically to build trust through transparency. However, it is not as clear that a snapshot taken on the 2nd of November, and this is likely repeated on an anual basis as long as the deciding team determines there is going to a jupuary. One has to data mine and read lots of comments to come to the conclusion that this is the likely scenario. Lochie kindly responded and posted a link on his x account. Good on ya Lochie! but I believe this very basic eligibilty criteria needs to be coming from the decision makers and pinned somewhere under categories for all to see prior to locking up JUP. I have used the app well before I staked and have no issue with there being a snapshot at all, but I do challenge the notion that it is clear. If it is clear why would there be questions about it. The whole JUP staking and ASR is somewhat nebulous compared to other platforms and if expanding is part of the goal it would be healthy to have this facet sorted.
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From what I can see, the proposal appears to aim at ensuring a fair and inclusive distribution of JUP tokens for the airdrop. The goals, such as reducing centralization risks, incentivizing both existing holders and new participants, and supporting the broader Jupiter ecosystem, are commendable and align well with what should be expected from a community-driven initiative. The detailed allocation breakdown shows considerable effort to be as equitable as possible.
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Balanced Proposal for Distribution
Positives
The inclusion of various distribution pools (e.g., DAO/stakers, new users, and volume-based allocations) demonstrates a thoughtful approach. By splitting allocations into tiers, the proposal ensures that both loyal token holders and new participants benefit. The volume-based redistribution strategy for active users is particularly compelling since it encourages activity without overly favoring whales.
Concerns
Adjusted volume-based allocations may still spark concerns of unequal distribution. Larger token holders might still disproportionately influence the final outcome if not carefully managed. While tiering mitigates this risk somewhat, more transparency around how “adjusted calculations” are defined may help avoid controversy and skepticism within the community. -
Focus on Inclusivity:
- The proposal appears to balance benefits to existing members of the ecosystem with attracting new users, which is vital for long-term growth. However, the inclusion of new users must be paired with mechanisms to avoid exploitation, such as bots or inauthentic participation—which are common vulnerabilities in airdrops.
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*uture Focused
- Tying the redistribution strategy with DAO and governance support is forward-looking. This promotes the utility of JUP while strengthening the ecosystem overall, which, as a token holder, assures me of sustained value.
Summary of My Opinion as a Token Holder:
As a Jupiter token holder, I feel cautiously optimistic about this proposal. Its emphasis on fairness, inclusivity, and promoting growth within the ecosystem is well-aligned with the fundamentals of blockchain governance. However, I would advocate for the following additional steps:
- Clearer, transparent criteria for adjusted allocations in volume-based distributions.
- Anti-exploitation measures to prevent bots or larger holders from disproportionately benefiting.
- Maybe a feedback mechanism post-Round 2 to analyze outcomes and adjust as necessary for future distributions.
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Thanks for the info! So, they only do the rewards once a year, right? Will there be rewards given in April 2025? I want to know so that I’m make the right decisions for me too.
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So ASR is every quarter so 4 times a year
Jupuary airdrop happens once a year in January.
We have this years on and one in Jan 2026.
After that there is plans to have 1 more but that hasn’t been locked in a probs requires a dao vote
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Oh, okay. I guess I confused the two things. What are the ASR quarterly rewards like?
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Depends on how many votes you land
Past quarters have returned like 25-12 % per Qrt
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